Comments for Braver Angels https://braverangels.org/ Tue, 17 Jun 2025 19:57:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.4 Comment on Colleagues of the Week: The Dev team by Kate Christensen https://braverangels.org/colleagues-of-the-week-the-dev-team/#comment-21541 Sat, 24 May 2025 16:18:09 +0000 https://braverangels.org/?p=91003#comment-21541 Please keep up your very effective work that is making it possible to believe Braver Angels can make a difference. Kate

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Comment on Braver Angels Minnesota by Elaine C Gaston https://braverangels.org/braver-angels-minnesota/#comment-21029 Mon, 24 Feb 2025 15:43:07 +0000 https://braverangels.org/braver-angels-minnesota/#comment-21029 How do I get the red, white and blue book marker that spells out the ground rules for gathering neighbors to have political conversations?

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Comment on Beyond Depolarization: What Our Movement is Becoming by John Wood, Jr. https://braverangels.org/beyond-depolarization-what-our-movement-is-becoming/#comment-20408 Wed, 12 Feb 2025 21:24:13 +0000 https://www.better-angels.org/?p=4390#comment-20408 In reply to Leslie South.

Our view, in short, is that when trust between the American people dwindles the appeal of dangerous ideologies built on the idea that we are irreconcilable enemies rises. Our work runs through communities and institutions and the airwaves in an effort to rebuild trust and goodwill between Americans so that we can engage the project of self-government together. In that way, we create common ground that is antithetical to the sort of trends you describe.

Still, we are a community of people who may disagree about where the most salient threats of authoritarianism come from. What unties us is a belief that by revitalizing the bonds of American people we build resistance to the worst possible developments that may threaten American society, whatever part of the spectrum it may come from.

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Comment on Finding Common Ground in Ohio by John Wood, Jr. https://braverangels.org/finding-common-ground-in-ohio/#comment-20406 Wed, 12 Feb 2025 21:20:49 +0000 https://www.better-angels.org/?p=2132#comment-20406 That’s great Jay! Look for our local alliances here. If there is nothing in your area you can get in touch with your state coordinator, and maybe we can work together to get something started.

https://braverangels.org/braver-citizens/find-a-local-alliance/

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Comment on Beyond Depolarization: What Our Movement is Becoming by Leslie South https://braverangels.org/beyond-depolarization-what-our-movement-is-becoming/#comment-20394 Wed, 12 Feb 2025 18:17:49 +0000 https://www.better-angels.org/?p=4390#comment-20394 If Braver Angels is neither red nor blue, liberal nor conservative, do you at least come out against tyranny, fascism, and despotism? If so, what is the movement’s plan to counter these alarming trends? I’m asking sincerely, and hoping for serious answers. Thank you.

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Comment on Braver Angels Indiana brings Dems, Reps to Monroe County Habitat build by John Wood, Jr. https://braverangels.org/braver-angels-indiana-brings-dems-reps-to-monroe-county-habitat-build/#comment-20308 Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:26:01 +0000 https://braverangels.org/braver-angels-indiana-brings-dems-reps-to-monroe-county-habitat-build/#comment-20308 In reply to David L Garshaw.

Thank you for asking David! Take a peak at our alliance map. If you do not see one for Monroe County you can still reach out to your state coordinator. Maybe we can work together and get one going.

https://braverangels.org/braver-citizens/find-a-local-alliance/

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Comment on Dispatch- Employing BA Methods in the University Classroom by Cynthia GH King https://braverangels.org/dispatch-employing-ba-methods-in-the-university-classroom/#comment-20032 Wed, 05 Feb 2025 21:57:47 +0000 https://www.better-angels.org/?p=3839#comment-20032 I enjoyed Joaquin Munoz description of teaching students. I would like to assist teachers in our own schools about the ability to have a civil debate. Reading this gives me hope and a start of a plan.

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Comment on Braver Angels Indiana brings Dems, Reps to Monroe County Habitat build by David L Garshaw https://braverangels.org/braver-angels-indiana-brings-dems-reps-to-monroe-county-habitat-build/#comment-19939 Mon, 03 Feb 2025 22:49:52 +0000 https://braverangels.org/braver-angels-indiana-brings-dems-reps-to-monroe-county-habitat-build/#comment-19939 Is there a local Monroe County Braver Angels chapter
If so, I would like to receive any information available on the chapter. Thanks.
P.S. This site does NOT deal well with a new email address…..

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Comment on 020724-cr-braver – Colorado Springs Gazette by Phoebe Ruona https://braverangels.org/020724-cr-braver-colorado-springs-gazette-2/#comment-19592 Thu, 16 Jan 2025 17:45:46 +0000 https://braverangels.org/020724-cr-braver-colorado-springs-gazette-2/#comment-19592 Is there a chapter of Braver Angels in or near Boulder, CO?

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Comment on At War with Ourselves: My Tour of Duty in the Trump White House by Barbara Regan https://braverangels.org/library/resources/at-war-with-ourselves-my-tour-of-duty-in-the-trump-white-house/#comment-19421 Tue, 24 Dec 2024 15:01:46 +0000 https://braverangels.org/?post_type=library&p=241114#comment-19421 I appreciated the opening page of the book that had a Note to the Reader:

“Those who despise Donald Trump will want to read in these pages confirmation that he was a narcissist unfit for the highest office in the land. Those who revere him will want to read how Trump the anti-hero fought to save the United States from establishment politicians and bureaucrats who had for too long been derelict in their duty to the American people. But I wrote this book to get past the hyper-partisanship and explain what really happened. I wrote with no political agenda; the politics of our day are pulling this country apart. And I wrote with no desire for requital. I wrote to recount what I experienced. As a historian, I have been a consumer of books like this one, and I have always approached them with vigilance and skepticism. I expect that you will do the same.”

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Comment on “What Liberals Miss About Conservatives” by Jay Leiserson https://braverangels.org/what-liberals-miss-about-conservatives/#comment-19381 Fri, 20 Dec 2024 21:55:23 +0000 https://braverangels.org/?p=138043#comment-19381 It was interesting to tune in to this after the 2024 reelection of Trump. It says as much about what conservatives don’t get about blues. As a moderate Democrat I’m baffed that they don’t see the hypocrisy in their claims of support for individual liberty while, for example, taking away individual rights to determine our medical care and relocating them with State and local politicians. Abortion rights, end of life decisions, medical Marijuana and psychedelics for treatment of PTSD and other conditions come to mind. The notion that most/all liberals support unlawful civic confrontations, trashing cities, etc seems similarly bizarre. It as if I were to believe all conservatives are in favor of rioting and attacking the capital in an attempt to overturn a presidential election and favor pardoning those rioters convicted of felonies and jaied. They are not in favor of this, right? Or am I not understanding them?

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Comment on A Mild, Sympathetic Critique of Braver Angels Debates by Jay Bassett https://braverangels.org/a-mild-sympathetic-critique-of-better-angels-debates/#comment-19229 Sun, 08 Dec 2024 18:12:05 +0000 https://www.better-angels.org/?p=4734#comment-19229 Michael — heard a recent speech given by Obama on Pluralism as part of his 2024 demonocracy forum that I think is an insightful view and an opportunity that I see as aligned and could be operationalized consistent with the Braver Angels ethos and mission.

See below for a summary on points made for reflection

Point Number One: Building bridges is not contrary to equality and social justice in fact, it is our best tool for delivering lasting change. Now today, there is a perception, among some advocates, that being adversarial is the main way to make change. Compromise and civility only serve to entrench existing power structures.

Pluralism is not about holding hands and singing “Kumbaya.” It is not about abandoning your convictions and folding when things get tough. It is about recognizing that in a democracy, power comes from forging alliances, and building coalitions, and making room in those coalitions not only for the woke but also for the waking. Now, there are risks involved in engaging with groups you disagree with, particularly if there’s a power imbalance involved. There is a risk when you begin to negotiate comprises that you’ll give away too much, that you’ll whittle away your issues to the point where it’s hard to claim that you’re making progress. And building bridges may require you to deal with people who not only disagree with you, but do not respect you.

Point Number Two: Pluralism does not require us to deny our unique identities or experiences, but it does require that we try to understand the identities and experiences of others and to look for common ground.

It may feel satisfying in the short term. Unfortunately, it actually reinforces the sense that we are inevitably, immutably divided and that makes it harder for people to reimagine how they might see themselves and they might see others. In order to build lasting majorities that support justice — not just for feeling good, not just for getting along, to deliver the goods — we have to be open to framing our issues, our causes, what we believe in in terms of “we” and not just “us” and “them.”

– We have to try to frame issues in ways that at least consider the possibility of a win/win situation, rather than a zero-sum situation.

Third Point: Pluralism works better when it is about action and not just words

Words alone do not build trust. Words alone do not rid people of prejudice. What does build trust, because it builds relationships, is people banding together to get stuff done. Whether it’s a mosque and a synagogue joining forces to help victims of a natural disaster, or a Black community linking up with a traditionally hostile white community in Chicago to try and stop a highway from running through both neighborhoods. Such common efforts take time. They require an investment on the part of the participants.

It won’t eradicate people’s prejudices, but it will remind people that they don’t have to agree on everything to at least agree on some things. And that there are some things we cannot do alone.

Final point: We are not born with the muscles to make pluralism a habit, it takes practice, and we need to rebuild the institutions that can give us that practice.

Which is why this may need to start by just looking for opportunities for people to once again become a part of a society of joiners. Create more organizations from elementary school all the way through adulthood, that bring people together to do something.

A lot of our best work will happen from the bottom up instead of the top-down. If we’re going to get better at pluralism, it’s going to happen in the neighborhoods, in the communities where we spend our time, and in the schools where our kids develop the skills and learn how to negotiate and work together across differences.

What happens when the other side has repeatedly and abundantly made clear they’re not interested in playing by the rules?” Even in those circumstances, it’s important to look for allies in unlikely places. Too often, we assume that people on the other side have monolithic views when, in reality, some of them may share our beliefs in sticking to the rules, observing norms, and that’s why, when it is appropriate, there is nothing wrong with reinforcing and lifting up elected officials or voters, your neighbors, your friends, who you may not disagree with anything but they do agree with you on that.

Building up these habits and practices that so often we’ve lost. Learning to trust each other again, that’s a generational project.

Younger generation: And what they’re discovering is that, when they apply the principles, we just talked about — when they listen, they recognize their multiple identities, seek out common experiences and common values — they’re not just strengthening democratic habits. They’re building stronger organizations, which means they can deliver better results, concrete results for their members.

That is the power of pluralism. That’s how we break this cycle of cynicism that’s so prevalent in our politics right now, and ultimately, that’s how we’re going to solve some of the greatest challenges of our time.

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Comment on Video: Better Angels round table by Jane Blumberg https://braverangels.org/better-angels-round-table/#comment-19184 Tue, 03 Dec 2024 22:37:47 +0000 https://www.better-angels.org/?p=2328#comment-19184 I am tracking down a video I saw during Trump’s first term. I don’t see it on this website, but maybe you can direct me. I want to say it was a gentleman in the Midwest who got folks from the Left and the Right to agree to meet (in his barn?) to better understand each other. At the end of the weekend A muslim man and a white conservation older man had invited each other’s families to dinner. It was pretty powerful. any ideas? Thanks!

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Comment on Colleague of the Week: Rob Hanson by Kevin Laughlin https://braverangels.org/colleague-of-the-week-rob-hanson/#comment-19160 Sun, 01 Dec 2024 19:06:09 +0000 https://braverangels.org/?p=41501#comment-19160 Rob is still doing great work! I took initial training with him on LAPP three years ago and have used this tool in my role as spiritual companion to those red and blue through the 2024 election. He hosted, A Road Trip Across a Divided America, a program on November 9th here in Boise along with others in the Braver Angels community. It gave good resources, offered hope, insight to stay curious and how to continue to cultivate perspective in the year ahead. I am grateful to have his stewardship, verve, and wisdom in our community and the GEM state. Kudos and all good!

A Road Trip Across a Divided America, Film Screening, with Braver Angels, [Be Curious; Joseph Sim’s journey on a summer-long road trip across the United States that asks, “How did we lose connection with our neighbor, and more importantly, how do we get it back?” and Braver Angels] Hyde Park Mennonite Fellowship, 1520 N 12th St, Boise, ID 83702; November 09, 2024 More information at: https://www.hydeparkmennonitefellowship.com/ and
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/film-screening-a-road-trip-across-a-divided-america-boise-registration-1054143945919

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Comment on Colleague of the Week: Chris Lee by Ivan Kaisan https://braverangels.org/colleague-of-the-week-chris-lee/#comment-18890 Sun, 10 Nov 2024 04:02:25 +0000 https://braverangels.org/?p=229675#comment-18890 Thanks for your help Chris. Glad you’re getting a bit of recognition for your good work. When the film club is in a pinch, you’ve been there to pull us out of our hole. Good to know we have talented people supporting us when we find ourselves in a perplexing situation.

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Comment on Patriotism and Diversity, Shallow and Deep by Dean P. Patterson https://braverangels.org/patriotism-and-diversity-shallow-and-deep/#comment-18623 Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:49:20 +0000 https://www.better-angels.org/?p=3051#comment-18623 Keep up the amazing work!

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Comment on The Screen of Whiteness by Jesse P https://braverangels.org/the-screen-of-whiteness/#comment-18576 Sat, 19 Oct 2024 14:17:20 +0000 https://braverangels.org/?p=116620#comment-18576 In reply to Joy.

This type of laziness is the problem . This “I got mine , screw you” attitude is what has allowed this wicked game to persist . You take comfort in being “white” because it gives you a “pass ” ; but you forget what it was like before you obtained your’s. Go ahead and ignore the suffering of others so your comfortable but remember karma swings back around

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Comment on ‘Our nation is worth saving’: In Ohio, politically opposed friends are bridging the divide by Dave https://braverangels.org/our-nation-is-worth-saving-in-ohio-politically-opposed-friends-are-bridging-the-divide/#comment-18508 Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:49:32 +0000 https://braverangels.org/?p=35169#comment-18508 I have hope for our country . I have fear for our country . I was taught that “I” is a
very selfish word and that “We” is the word that you use to begin a conversation .
Today I found this site , late after watching the news , we do need to be better angels and we do need each other . The area my wife and I live in is full of good people
however we are different , in our politics then they . ” They and Them ” are words that divide . I do care for what may be , I do have hope for what we can do , so today’s
Word is ” Hope ” . may we get it right .

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Comment on How Braver Angels Began | David Blankenhorn, Bill Doherty, & David Lapp by Judiann Jen https://braverangels.org/how-braver-angels-began-david-blankenhorn-bill-doherty-david-lapp/#comment-18461 Sun, 13 Oct 2024 16:24:31 +0000 https://braverangels.org/?p=66514#comment-18461 My mother was a strong Trump supporter and she died July 5, 2016. My entire family became greedy and ejected me and then I decided I was going to vote for my mother even though I’ve been a Democrat most my adult life.

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Comment on Best of | How can you talk politics in a divided family? by Loving your circle of relatives even supposing you disagree fiercely on politics – Deseret Information - YTC News US: America's Most Trusted News Source 🌟 https://braverangels.org/a-braver-way-replay-divided-family/#comment-18328 Sun, 29 Sep 2024 20:33:26 +0000 https://braverangels.org/?p=236437#comment-18328 […] a up to date episode on navigating political tensions skillfully inside households, Guzmán describes talking to many undecided there’s any method ahead of their […]

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Comment on Acting Out: Transforming Conflict into Creativity by Lynn https://braverangels.org/acting-out-transforming-conflict-into-creativity/#comment-18146 Tue, 10 Sep 2024 12:20:40 +0000 https://braverangels.org/?p=236209#comment-18146 Thank you, Kate, for this insightful article and sharing your fantastic operatic voice to the performance.-Lynn

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Comment on Here’s how you – yes, you — can help Ohio and Cleveland lead our polarized nation out of … by Joyce Parker https://braverangels.org/heres-how-you-yes-you-can-help-ohio-and-cleveland-lead-our-polarized-nation-out-of/#comment-17825 Wed, 07 Aug 2024 12:46:27 +0000 https://braverangels.org/heres-how-you-yes-you-can-help-ohio-and-cleveland-lead-our-polarized-nation-out-of/#comment-17825 I’m starting to learn more about the present work of Braver Angels. I live at Kendal at Oberlin, a retirement community that is very interested and involved with peaceful living and a better world and democracy. We are always looking for speakers that our independent living residents can attend and watch on our own TV. We do not pay speakers, but you may find contributors and members. So far when I talk to people about my recent discovery again, they do not know much about Braver Angels. Would you have any speakers willing to come through the week? Joyce Parker–“the scout”

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Comment on “Why I’m Supporting Trump” by Katherine Badriyeh https://braverangels.org/why-im-supporting-trump/#comment-17691 Mon, 22 Jul 2024 16:35:49 +0000 https://braverangels.org/?p=7213#comment-17691 This is informative, however, these people don’t seem to care about anything but business and Israel. What about reproductive rights, what about education, what about social services, police racial prejudices and brutality, what about gun control, what about homelessness and children living in poverty. Though each one of these people make good points its just limited to business. I just don’t feel Trump and republicans care about people. At least that’s the way they come off as being in my experience.

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Comment on Coming together in a polarized political atmosphere – Wisconsin Examiner by Bruce La Mere https://braverangels.org/coming-together-in-a-polarized-political-atmosphere-wisconsin-examiner/#comment-17685 Mon, 22 Jul 2024 12:13:23 +0000 https://braverangels.org/coming-together-in-a-polarized-political-atmosphere-wisconsin-examiner/#comment-17685 What we can agree on: Ban on assault weapons; laws to make gerrymandering and voter suppression illegal felonies with serious prison time (these accepted practices is the real voter fraud); pregnancy is a serious woman’s health condition that should not be addressed by their legislators, nor the courts. Voting districts should not be drawn by legislators, nor partisan groups who install maps that prevents the public from removing representatives who are not serving their constituents.

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Comment on Can we reduce our fear around the election? by Kristian https://braverangels.org/can-we-reduce-our-fear-around-the-election/#comment-17610 Tue, 16 Jul 2024 05:53:32 +0000 https://braverangels.org/?p=231339#comment-17610 This is horrible. Clearly you have all the privilege , your rights aren’t being taken away. This “country” doesn’t matter, the people do, and people will be harmed beyond repair if The fascist Right gets any further into our system.

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Comment on The Screen of Whiteness by John Wood, Jr. https://braverangels.org/the-screen-of-whiteness/#comment-17566 Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:43:59 +0000 https://braverangels.org/?p=116620#comment-17566 In reply to erik storlie.

Hey Erik,

Just returned to this piece and am seeing all the comments that I missed at the time. Just wanted to point out, whatever you think of the piece on the whole, that the quote you take here as reflecting my own biases was not one that was meant to reflect my own point of view. I was summarizing the views of critical race theory oriented and other antiracist scholars and activists, and seeking to demonstrate where that view comes from.

I talk more directly about my own feelings towards the bottom of the piece.

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Comment on For Women, and for Choice by Johanna https://braverangels.org/for-women-and-for-choice/#comment-17496 Wed, 03 Jul 2024 16:29:56 +0000 https://www.better-angels.org/?p=3272#comment-17496 We find ourselves living in a time when our fellow, beloved conservatives have deemed it correct and necessary to create a KING for the United States instead of a PRESIDENT. Further, the slave-owning & voter suppressing framework established by the Dutch and Tidewater immigrants has been effectively re-instated since the brave passing of the Civil Rights Voting Act of 1964. Please note that this Act is currently called out by conservative think-tanks and organizations as an example of how liberals and progressives have “taught” Americans to be ashamed. (Ashamed of slavery, maybe…)
Moving on to the enslavement of women over these past 6,000 years: a direct look at the reality of our lives allows us to see these efforts as simple extortion of humans in order to create excess capital and wealth for a minority, a minority composed of both men and women but a minority none the less.
Does it make sense for a male fetus, no matter how viable, to have greater chances at living – & freely – vs any mother? It does for those interested in securing excess capital and wealth for a minority. It does not for anyone else.

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Comment on Bill Doherty Talks Better Angels on the KQ Morning Show by Joyce Bonafield-Pierce https://braverangels.org/bill-doherty-talks-better-angels-on-the-kq-morning-show/#comment-17438 Tue, 25 Jun 2024 15:02:35 +0000 http://www.better-angels.org/?p=1545#comment-17438 Hello Bill,
My name is Joyce Bonafield-Pierce (formerly without the Pierce), and I’ve known of you and met up with you in a few meetings decades past. My role in the mental health field was in forming and directing the Chrysalis Mental Health Clinic back in 1982.
I’m joining the Braver Angels today, and attending a meeting this evening (if we can get there through the gnarled rush-hour traffic).
In addition to being a therapist for many years, I have become a mediator, circle keeper and facilitator of other problem-solving/planning meetings. I hope to train as a facilitator of conversations/workshops with the Braver Angels.
Thank you for conceiving and building this group…needed more now than ever!
I’m also pondering (and in touch w some of our ldrs) re: possible need of international (non-affiliated in US political system) election monitors. I went to a Peace school in Austria where the UN (UNESCO) trained these people.
Seems like we may need them ourselves now.
Best regards,
Dr. Joyce Bonafield-Pierce, Minneapolis MN 55405
bonafieldcohort26@gmail.com 612-578-9597 cell // text

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Comment on Listening past the slogan by James Kreisle https://braverangels.org/listening-past-the-slogan/#comment-17147 Sun, 19 May 2024 03:20:52 +0000 https://braverangels.org/?p=231334#comment-17147 This ongoing and evolving discussion will almost certainly move us toward reconciliation given the preponderance of good intentions on both sides. Be patient and keep talking!
Are objective decisions about policy the ultimate goal or should we strive, instead, for consensus based on the best available evidence? The latter seems more realistic and consistent with the democratic process.

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Comment on Introducing the Braver Angels Guidelines on Tolerance by Robert https://braverangels.org/introducing-the-braver-angels-guidelines-on-tolerance/#comment-16953 Wed, 24 Apr 2024 06:57:04 +0000 https://braverangels.org/?p=94121#comment-16953 In reply to Steve.

The point is not “being civil.” The point is to be able to have a discussion and understand one another.

It is only by ending the “othering” and treating every individual with dignity and respect — especially those with whom we disagree — that we have any chance to start to understand one another and find common ground.

Treating everyone with respect is the only way we can reach those who are filled with hate and have any chance to change their minds. And it DOES happen! Just look at the story of Daryl Davis who befriends members of the Ku Klux Klan and gets them to renounce their white supremecist beliefs.

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